Ultimately it is your responsibilty to take care of yourself. There is no American ego here. But there is a large amount of people who like to do things just because everyone else is doing them and that is just as bothersome.
There is a big processed food business because there is big demand for it. You don't expect your car insurance to keep your car running do you? No it is for accidents. You can't expect your insurance to keep you healthy. I don't know what these procedures are that the middle class can't afford but I have yet to have one that I can't afford. What you want is the government to take care of people because they are too stupid to do it themselves. Unless you are an idiot you know that you don't need to eat McDonalds no matter how much money they use for advertising.
Preventive care is what we need but the best and most efective preventive care is what YOU do. You don't put the cigarette in your mouth and you don't eat the fatty foods. The government always has other motives when they claim its for your good. There are only 12 million people who can't truly afford health insurance, so why is the government trying to paint a picture that health insurance is so expensive?
We aren't going to see eye to eye on this. I expect people to be able to be free and make there own desicions within a free market. You expect the government to make desicions for people who are too dumb to do it on their own and have no market and government control of everything, a European wonderland where their is no free will and people are told what to do but there are no corporations and everything is cheap because the government owns it.
---- Derek Lastafka <d.last02@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yea we do have great technology and it's reserved for the wealthy. I don't
> want to live in Europe, it is people with the American Ego who bother me and
> think because we didn't think of it, it must be terrible. Dude we don't use
> the metric system. Lol They don't travel here for special procedures
> because they can't afford them. No middle class/poor person can. I agree
> it has a lot to do with the foods we eat but do you think that should solely
> be the fault the individual? There is very limited options in this country
> for unprocessed foods. How about the billion dollar advertisement campaigns
> for fast food and junk foods? Do you think the working middle class and
> poor can afford luscious unprocessed meals with all healthy alternatives?
> The companies don't have to make the foods crappy and terrible for you, they
> make it crappier because it costs them less money to make. The reasons
> Europeans are healthier is because they practice preventative medicine not
> "hit rock bottom medicine" like we do. Doctors get bonuses and incentives
> for making people quit smoking, lose weight, etc, etc. I love how
> republicans make the health insurance companies the victims. Do you really
> believe the Health Industry had zero part in the rise of costs of health
> insurance? They wanted it and they love it. For the past decade all major
> Health Insurers have made 300% or more profit gain. With the new plan you
> can keep what you have or go public option. Veterans health insurance is
> provided by the government and it is currently the best care received from
> any health care provider.
>
>
>
> From: Sean Lalley [mailto:slalley@windstream.net]
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 8:14 AM
> To: Derek Lastafka
> Cc: slalley.rochelle69@blogger.com
> Subject: Re: [Random Political Thoughts and News] Yahoo! News Story - Reid
> Lacks Votes for...
>
>
>
> Man I don't know how you got that I was saying we should privatize any of
> those things. That is governments function and that's about the extent of
> it. Why don't you go and live in Europe then if you want to be European so
> bad. Just because they do it doesn't mean we have to and if they were so
> much better then our health care why don't people travel there for surgeries
> and special procedures? Oh because we are better, we have better
> technology. Health insurance is not why these people live longer. For one
> they eat far less processed foods than we do. It is your responsibility to
> take care of yourself. We abuse health insurance in this country because we
> get tests we don't need and go to the doctor when we don't need to, that
> drives up cost. And if the governments new plan was so good why don't the
> people who are creating it join it?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Derek Lastafka <mailto:d.last02@gmail.com>
>
> To: 'Monkey <mailto:slalley@windstream.net> Suit'
>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:34 AM
>
> Subject: RE: [Random Political Thoughts and News] Yahoo! News Story - Reid
> Lacks Votes for...
>
>
>
> You know what lets privatize police, firefighters, libraries, department of
> transportation, F.B.I., C.I.A., and Military while we are at it since the
> government is terrible and private corporations are so ethical. Just
> imagine all of that ran by private corporations. Read this sentence and
> tell me if it's ethical, "I profit from people being sick." Majority of the
> industrialized world has government run health care. Why aren't they
> revolting? I want you to do a poll in those countries and ask if they want
> private insurance lol. They all have higher life expectancy than us. Cuts
> to Medicare are being proposed because with a public option not as much
> benefits are needed. The reason Medicare is having problems is because
> health care costs are ridiculous. Ask seniors if they want their government
> run health care taken away so they are forced to buy private insurance.
>
>
>
> It's immoral for somebody to profit and flourish from the sick and dying.
> Why don't you understand that? If firefighters were privatized do you think
> it would be great if they charged you money before they came to put out a
> fire lol? Why do you defend a industry that gets incentives and bonuses
> from the amount of people they deny health care to?
>
> Capitalism only works when there is competition and the Private Health Care
> providers have none because everyone gets sick and they are forced to pay
> into a broken and expensive system.
>
>
>
> The reason the public option is the answer because looking around the world
> it provides health care to all that need it. They pay barely anything per
> family compared to us. They are ranked higher than us in health care. It
> will force private insurers to compete and lower their costs. France who
> has a hybrid system of private and government health care very similar to
> the system in congress, has the Number 1 health care system in the world.
> Number one in costs, quality, and quantity.
>
>
>
> Every single U.S. citizen deserves a chance at life. The size of your
> wallet shouldn't determine your life expectancy.
>
>
>
> From: Monkey Suit [mailto:slalley@windstream.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:35 AM
> To: d.last02@gmail.com
> Subject: [Random Political Thoughts and News] Yahoo! News Story - Reid Lacks
> Votes for...
>
>
>
> Monkey Suit (randompoliticalthoughtsandnews@yahoo.com) has sent you a news
> article.
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> I am glad to hear that they lack the 60 votes. I don't understand and will
> never understand how the only way is a government option. The facts have
> been skewed and misrepresente so much its hard to tell what the truth is.
> But we all know how governmetn runs things. If medicare is running so
> smoothly then why are there so many cuts being proposed? Because they are
> mismanaging it thats why. Government intervention is not the answer.
>
> Reid Lacks Votes for Health Insurance Public Option - Yahoo! News
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20091028/pl_bloomberg/a69ibwl4kuve
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